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I had to see the California labor department people. I had to see Mrs. Edson and go with her to see some factories and some hearings on minimum wage laws. It was a long convention. I wasn't as inured to long conventions then as I am now. Even now I find them pretty fatiguing. I don't know whether I can bring myself to go this year (1952) or not. At all conventions you only know part of what's going on anyway. I knew certain things, but had no idea they were meeting in another hotel or anything like that. I suppose that's what it comes down to.

Pat Harrison seems to be very vivid in my memory of that convention. I don't know that he took any great part or not, but I seem to recall him as a very vigorous person.

At that time Roosevelt and Al Smith were on good, chummy terms. I don't know how close they were, but they were very friendly. Al Smith, after all, was Governor of the State of New York and he had done very well. He was very popular. He was a leading figure. I'm sure that Roosevelt was not only acquainted with him, but that he had made some effort to develop that acquaintanceship a little more into friendship. Franklin, as Smith called him, had done well in Washington. I'm very sure that there was a good substantial personal feeling between them. It hadn't become as keen as it was later, but it was the beginning of it.

It was the fashion at that time, and I'm sure Roosevelt