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Franklin very quickly. It would be the best thing in the world to have her there.”

I said, “Won't that make some trouble? After all, we've never had a woman there before. She's a woman and she's Jewish. Some of these Irish friends of yours don't like that too well.”

“Oh, she's all right. She's overcome all that. The Irish like her all right. She's been just fine. That's the thing I want him to do. That would be it. I told him that - that that was the best thing he could do. I thought you ought to know that because you might have a chance to say a word.”

So within a week I had heard it from both of them and had heard from Mrs. Moskowitz the fact that she knew it had been done and that she was willing. I never told Franklin Roosevelt that Al Smith had sent for me and talked to me until many years later, and then just in passing, because at the time I felt that it would be mischief-making if I went and told him this, and became a bearer. I never told Al Smith that Governor Roosevelt had already told me and had told me what Eleanor had said to him. I knew that would be mischief-making and that it would create tension between them.

The only thing I reported was to report to Governor