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Moskowitz, never had any public statements to say about the way Roosevelt was doing things that were unfavorable. He had always been very much interested in the Labor Department and what went on there. I used to go to see him occasionally. I won't say frequently, because I really don't know how frequently I went. I went often enough so that in the course of a year I felt that I had seen him a good many times. I went to see him to keep him in touch with the Labor Department, as much as anything, partly because I wanted to see him and wanted to keep in touch with him, and partly because I wanted him to know how the Labor Department was developing. This was perhaps sly on my part, but I also recognized that he was a better anchor to windward so far as Tammany Hall was concerned than was Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was the Governor. Tammany Hall was still potent in Democratic circles. Also, Al was a better aide and helper on political adjustments with upstate Republicans than Governor Roosevelt was, partly because they'd known him a long time and liked him. He had casual, informal relationships with them.

The two fellows who were the head of the Finance Committee of the Senate and the head of the Appropriation Committee of the Assembly were cases in point. I always needed them. When the Republicans didn't control the Legislature, these men were the ranking members of these