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like him, but they had offside remarks to make because he was throwing his weight around a little. After all, he was Governor and he was kind of laying it on the line as to what should be done. These two old legislators, who'd been in the Legislature for many, many years and were then elderly men, fifty-odd, or sixty - that seemed old to me at the time - felt very superior to Roosevelt. After all, what could he know? Or that was the way they felt. They were not influenced by the fact that he said he was going to have it this way.

Smith they respected as a fellow legislator, and one who had grovelled around with them in the Assembly, and whom they had met in all kinds of relationships. One of them, at least, had been on the constitutional convention with him and so had learned to have a great respect for his mentality and his grasp of the affairs of the State of New York. A word from Smith to them on any problem was useful to me. If Smith would tell them, as he sometimes would, that this was right in line with the same things we did the year before, or the year before that, of which he had approved, and this was only the continuation, they would listen sometimes and it would soften them up a little.

So I kept in touch with Smith, partly for my own pleasure, partly because it was a practical insurance against political problems, and partly because I honestly wanted