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belonged to the Democratic party. His heart was there. It had great meaning to him and he had great personal loyalty to it. I always have thought that it was Mrs. Moskowitz who led him up on the mountain, showed him the kingdoms of the world, and said, “The way to get these kingdoms is to be a Republican. Now they are in the swim. This is their period.”

I'm sure she did this. She tried to get me to come out for Willkie. She just thought that by that time I must be dissatisfied. She saw Roosevelt's defects so clearly, without knowing anything about them, that her projection was that she thought I must see them too. I think she thought that I would be glad of a seat on the bandwagon. She misjudged me to that extent. This was before Smith was committed, because she told me that she was sure that Smith was going to be committed. She was sure that Smith was going to come out for Willkie. He didn't like Dewey, but if they were going to nominate this fellow Willkie, he'd come out for him. She pointed out to me that Willkie had all the ideals and objectives that we had had in the old days. I didn't know anything about Willkie. Perhaps he did have them for all I knew. I knew nothing about him, but I had learned my political lessons early. I was a Democrat. I was a Democratic office holder. I had taken high position as the gift of