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the Democratic party and President. Even if I'd been disaffected, I wouldn't have come out for the opposition. But I wasn't disaffected. I thought it was going good, although I had great doubts about the wisdom of a third term. I talked it over with Jim Farley and many other people at the time. I had some solid doubts on political grounds - not on moral grounds, not on the fact that it's too long a period, but just on political health.

That's neither here nor there, but under any circumstances I was not disaffected and I would not have supported Willkie. However, I know that she was shopping around for people who would support him. I think she was one of the early people approached about the Willkie boom, when it first got started.

I think that Mrs. Moskowitz was primarily responsible for Al's rift with the Democratic party. I don't know how Proskauer was involved. Proskauer was a nervous fellow. So far as I know he never quit the Democratic party. I'm pretty sure that he never went Liberty League. So I don't think he had too much effect on Smith in this relationship.

I'm sure that some of Smith's old friends encouraged him to try to run in '32. However, many dissuaded him. In '32 he hadn't read himself out of the Democratic party and into an opposition position. He was only opposed to Franklin Roosevelt.