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ownership or publisher's connection. He said to me, “Do you want to be listed as one of the brain trust?”

I said, “God, no. What is the train trust?”

He said, “It's all these fellows - Tugwell, Moley and Berle, and so on - who advise the President. I happen to know that there's an article in the Nation (I think that, or maybe the New Republic) that is going to be printed in which the members of the brain trust are mentioned. You're included among them. I just thought I'd ask you, because I can have that taken out if you don't want it.”

I said, “You bet I don't. Have it taken out.” He did. I always thought to myself, “What a narrow escape I had really.” There was no reason for including me in the brain trust, except that I had a brain. It was a term of disrepute, or so it became very quickly. What interested me was that the men to whom it was applied never seemed to think it was.

In the election of 1932 my campaigning was done mostly in the State of New York. By this time, of course, I had some part. I made some speeches. I wrote, of course, a number of the President's speeches, or parts of them. That was one of my principal contributions. He would turn to me for help on certain things. I organized material, brought it down, and so forth. I don't remember as vividly going around the