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He was very cynical about that outfit. Then I asked him about the Bureau of Labor statistics. He said, “Well, of course, they got in that awful fight, as you know. Stewart, the head of it, resigned. He's resigned and out. His resignation was accepted by Hoover. Somebody else has been appointed as acting head. He resigned as result of the row over the unemployment figures.”

Stewart was an honest man. He knew I was right and the president was wrong. He knew, what's more, that the President was using figures which had been given to him through Doak from the Public Employment Service which had no access whatever to correct figures and had no statistical machinery, equipment, or knowledge or understanding. Therefore, they were totally unreliable and untrustworthy. He knew that Doak had been told that. Stewart finally knew that the President had been told that because he saw to it that the President had been told that. When the President continued to give these out and to make these glowing statements, Stewart raised the roof and did his best to get some publicity but didn't get much. He was put down as an old crank who was about at retirement age anyhow, as indeed he was. He resigned an it was promptly accepted.

The first morning that I was on tap he came in because he wanted to. I had known him. We had met at meetings of