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crooked work apparently for many years. His brother, Henry Garsson, was also associated with him in this and another leading element in this group was a man named Edward Brown. He was a nephew of Secretary Doak's. That was very embarrassing when the time came to clear these out. There were a lot of other cousins, nephews, and sons-in-law of various people in this outfit, because these people had been appointed without any regard whatever to competitive or civil service qualifications. They had just been picked up whenever you wanted to pick them up. It was always a mystery as to where they got them, or how they got them.

Mr. White told me that he felt that they got most of them out of this gutter. He had the lowest opinion of all of them. He didn't think there was an honest man in the bunch.

It's difficult to account for this state of affairs under Hoover. Hoover, whatever else may he said, was an honest man. Doak, however, was not an honest man I'm quite convinced. Doak died quite a rich man. I don't hold that against anybody. I'd like to die rich myself. But there was something so sinister about his relationship to these people and their relationship to the gangster world. The Wickersham Report said that there was no question that they shook down people. If you read over the files of the New York Times