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that outfit came around to them from time to time and tried to get information, or tried to get them to give information that was in the files, or tried to give them a name and address. However, I never saw any more of them and I doubt if White did. I knew that Garsson worked in Washington for some time. Mr. White told me that he was over at National Republican headquarters, that he had a job over there - a rather low-down job, but a job. I never knew that of my own knowledge and it was information that White gave me. I told White that I thought he ought to go tell them what kind of a man he was, but then we lost track of it. I had accomplished what I wanted to do, which was to get them out of the Department of Labor, get them out of the migration Service, and get the thing back in a regular operation again. I didn't pay much attention to what became of them as individuals. After all, we were extremely busy. It was just a time when I couldn't bother with that. Anyway, that took care of that outfit.

Of course, I had then to evaluate the usefulness of every individual and of every agency. I talked with the man who was the head of the Employment Service, whom I had known previously, because he'd come to meetings and, after all, I was one of his “dollar a year” men in the State of New York, so to speak. As Industrial Commissioner