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of the State Department, was down there at the same time as Goethals too. That's how I became acquainted with her. She was then married to somebody who was working as one of these engineers. I forget what his name was. She was a very competent analyst and junior executive herself. She had a job down there on the post doing something in what we would now call personnel work, but they didn't have that name for it.

Anyhow MacCormack was hired by Goethals to develop a whole program for the housing, the commissary, the entertainment, the education, the life in general of these people who came down there to work. Well, he did a magnificent job. Goethals always used to say that he never could have built he canal if MacCormack and some of his boys hadn't stood by and gotten the other part of it done. They weren't engineers. They were just taking care of the people. Anyway he did a very fine job and the organization of it was superb.

He was many years down there and then when the World War broke out, he turned up again in New York. We hadn't seen him for years and years. We knew him during the building of the canal period. He turned up in New York, was back in the Army and had gotten a commission. He was in the quartermaster corps. He came into New York on a special assignment.