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There was a great deal of wangling to be done. It took longer to get the political machinery going than it did for me to take the paper from Hodson and Hopkins and take it to the President. Of course, Farley came into it in a big way to organize the political forces that had to be consulted and had to be appeased before you could get a big appropriation from Congress. Within certainly the next week or so the President told the Cabinet about this plan, that it was in process, that it was going to be come true, that there would be direct relief, that there would be state cooperation, and so forth. That was settled. The machinery was the only thing that was being oiled. As I say, it took a lot of wangling by the President himself and on a level that was beyond me. I wasn't taking part in that.

The Emergency Powers Act must have been passed very early, because he couldn't really act until then. Then he did act. Then he sat down with me to consult about what just this wording of the announcement should be, which we did. Then he had to decide who should be appointed - Hopkins or Hodson. I had said that it ought to be one of the two and he agreed. I think I'd had both Hopkins and Hodson in to see the President. The problem with people like Hopkins and Hodson, and other very good people who wanted to see the President, was that they couldn't get by McIntyre.