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operations, who didn't go along and didn't believe Baruch when he mysteriously said to him, “Now, see here, I'm going to sell this and buy that in a godforsaken desert in the middle of Arizona,” he was through with him. If it happened that in the cleaning-up operations this man who had once been his friend had to be cleaned out too, it wouldn't bother him. He would think that that was just the way of business and people would find their own way. I think he was ruthless, without being emotionally ruthless. At least I never saw anything that made me think he had bitter hatreds.

He was not recognized by most people as a Jew and he was certainly not recognized by most people as a Southerner. I'm sure that people who were onto his political operations in the Wilson administration must have known that he had a Southern background. Although he may have been born and brought up in the South, his Southern period was when he was so young that it wouldn't make any difference in New York. He came to New York as a very young man and went to work in a very low paid and low down the line job somewhere in some Wall Street brokerage or banking house. I don't quite know, but it was certainly of no consequence. He was a very young man. I should say that he was no more than twenty - hardly more than a boy. So his adult life was a New York life. He bore no Southern accent. I don't recall that he associated himself