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there were quite long periods when he was slightly batty, because he didn't know what was going on. He lost contact with reality. That was not because of any mental defect. It was just liquor. Of course, you can say that there's a mental defect in everybody who drinks liquor to that extent, and I will agree with it. But he was perfectly competent. Nobody would testify that he wasn't competent to make a will, or competent to make a valid decision, or competent to make any other contract that any normal, sane man was supposed to make, or competent to know whether he was doing right or wrong if he committed a crime. He was within that area all the time.

He was just a very highly excitable, unstable, very. very emotional person. I have never known such terrific emotion from anybody. As I knew him better later on, I often asked him about his bringing up. I was anxious to know - perhaps anxious is the wrong word, just curious - how he was brought up, why he had never gained any more discipline over himself. I didn't find out much of anything. He was born down in Oklahoma. He had a mother living. He didn't seem to have recollection enough of his childhood so that I was able to determine whether he had had a reasonably good bringing-up, or not. At least I saw him in late middle life without what I would call self-discipline.