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was going on. He knew what was going on in NRA better than Johnson did, because he got around to all parts of it. He was the one who had to put the codes in order, to schedule the hearings, to see that the correspondence was answered, to see that the people who protested something had their complaint looked into and that the true inwardness of their complaint was understood and acted on if necessary. So he began to come regularly with Johnson.

If Wallace was there at all, after one or two meetings he just politely stopped coming any more. When called up to be asked why he hadn't come, he would say, “I just don't think I can add anything. I don't think I do any good. I can't make it out. I really have nothing to contribute and there are enough people there anyhow.” My impression is that that was what happened. I don't have a clear memory of that, however.

Within a few weeks after the beginning of the meetings of the committee Ickes was storming. He'd sit at the table looking glum, pouting, scowling, asking an occasional pertinent question and getting a lot of fluff as an answer. Johnson began giving fluffy answers because I think he really didn't know the answer to the questions that Ickes would ask.

Dan Roper never got disgruntled. He was always pleasant about it.