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procession in, so that the people would see him and so that he could see the people. He invited John L. Lewis, Blacky Smith, and some other people to ride with him. The car was full. They had the jump seats full, and so forth.

I cite all this just to show the degree to which he made chums and friends of everybody in the hope of winning them to his side. He'd already begun to say that John L. Lewis was the most able man in the labor movement. If one reads back, by the way, into the magazine and periodical literature of the winter of '33-'34, one will find that that idea was firmly established throughout the U.S.A. The periodicals and magazines, although I don't remember its being in the daily press, had special articles about John L. Lewis. There was a general reference to him with respect and many repetitions of the fact that he was one of the ablest labor leaders, that he was a man with a really honorable point of view. John L. Lewis was supposedly a great labor leader because he always kept his agreements. You could trust him. Supposedly business people trusted him because he kept his agreements. He wasn't a man who made an agreement and then ran out on it. Nobody in the business, like myself, ever knew a labor man to run out on an agreement. They all keep their agreements. They work hard enough to get them, and