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That was one of the things he contributed. He organized it. John Hancock, I think, had the idea for the Blue Eagle and for all of the many slogans of the NRA.

At any rate, Johnson was making a great deal of John L. Lewis, and John L. Lewis was making a great deal of Johnson. So Lewis was cultivating Johnson for, I suppore, what he could get out of it, and also because Lewis liked to be part of the glory. Johnson had conceived the idea that Lewis was the best man in the labor movement and that was the place to make friends, getting Lewis back of him in the NRA. Of course, the rest of the labor movement didn't think of Lewis that way. They kept John L. Lewis at arm's length. They were always alarmed about him, having, as they said, known “Big John” a long time.

However, on this night coming back from Virginia, Johnson invited Lewis to drive up in his car. So far as I know Johnson hadn't been drinking much and certainly Lewis hadn't, because Lewis is the most abstemious of men. He doesn't drink. I don't mean to say he doesn't take a glass of beer occasionally, but he's not what's known as a drinking man. Nobody has ever been found who saw him intoxicated. He's a very cool-headed fellow.

I cite all this to show the state of exaltation Johnson very easily got into. He threw his arms around Lewis and