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departments, because the NRA will embrace all those functions and carry them out effectively.” He said that very plainly and he said it more than once. I have paraphrased and briefened it here.
He had begun to conceive of the NRA as embracing practically everything - I know that included the Treasury - in the government that touched the economic life of the nation in any way. He tried to salve my feelings, as I said in my book, by saying, “The Department of Labor can be a research unit inside the NRA and the Department of Commerce can be a research unit into certain commercial practices inside the NRA.” He was grinding away on that idea.
Wagner had said that above all things he would not have this new act put under the NRA because it was an impermanent body and because he didn't think an enterprise like the NRA was a suitable place for this adjudication of the disputes between employers and labor by a fixed principle established by law. There was no place for it in the NRA. The NRA was good only insofar as it was entirely informal. I don't think it was, as has been suggested, that he didn't trust Johnson. Wagner was very well-disposed toward Johnson, and I think for the same reasons the rest of us were - he recognized the qualities
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