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of leadership he had, his ability to stir up the people. But he was distrustful of this idea that everything should be under Johnson's control, and particularly that an informal affair like the NRA, which was supposed to stir up industry, should be the judicial agency.

Whether it should be in the Department of Labor, or an independent body, Wagner had not made up his mind about. As I've said before, I was not very enthusiastic - in fact, I was quite unenthusiastc - about the act under any circumstances, but did feel very sincerely that if it was to be established it would be wiser to establish it in an old, established agency of government that had its own administrative practices and where it would be certain to be administered along sound administrative lines.

The rough draft of the bill which the Senator and Rifkind had prepared was not awfully different from the bill which finally was introduced, although it was different in some respects.

Wagner was very anxious to introduce this bill in '34 before the Congress adjourned. He was growing very restless about it, but we had all previously agreed, and I think the President had said, that we must all agree on it. He said, “We can't have this bill go up and then have the NRA opposed to it or the Department of Labor opposed to it.”