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“So nothing will come through from the State Department on European recovery and how they're managing it, if at all.”

Then he went off into a long spiel, and I don't know where he got it, about how they weren't recovering in England. There wasn't any recovery in France, and so forth - all that sort of thing.

I can't remember whether he wrote a note to the President, or telephoned him. He might even have gone over to see him, but I think not. I'm almost certain he didn't go over to see the President to say no, but that he contented himself with a telephone call. Anyhow, that was that. That move had failed.

But the newspaper people had gotten hold of the idea that the President was offering General Johnson certain things to get him out of the NRA. I think some newspaper man dreamed up the idea that he was going to be Secretary of Commerce and that Dan Roper was going to be asked to resign. Johnson called me up and asked me if that was what the President wanted to do with him. Absolutely truthfully I answered that I hadn't the remotest idea, that I had never heard such a thing. That was complete truth. I wasn't fooling him on that. I got the impression, and I still remember the impression, that that would not have





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