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for him.”

I said, “You mean for you, Mr. Chrysler?”

“Oh no. Remember I'm not saying that it's anything I'll agree to. You can't ever use my name. You promised me that if I'd talk with you and advise you, you'd never use my name,”

I said, “That's right, I won't use your name with anybody.”

So I called up Alfred Sloan, got him in his house. I had some difficulty getting by the butler who had instructions that Mr. Sloan wasn't to be called. He came to the phone finally and begged pardon for having been so delayed in coming. You know, he's quite deaf, but he's deafer when he's mad and wants to be than he is when he wants to hear. I had discovered that already. He said, “I'm sorry that you had trouble getting me, but I have to keep people off me. The fresh people on the newspapers call me up all the time. They'll do anything to get through to my telephone. Even some of these fresh fools from the union will call me up. I just have to keep a strict watch around here. I don't let anybody in here. I won't even speak to my good friend Walter Chrysler. He tried to call me up the other day. I wouldn't even speak to him.”