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I said, “You wouldn't speak to Mr. Chrysler?”

I winked at Mr. Chrysler and Mr. Chrysler winked at me. He was sitting right across the desk from me. He was sore at Alfred because Alfred wouldn't talk to him that particular day.

Sloan said, “Finally he came over here. I was very much upset. I thought it was somebody else impersonating him. They'll do anything to get a talk with me, getting me to commit myself, to say something.”

“Well,” I said, “Mr. Sloan, all I wanted to suggest to you was this. I have been thinking about this a great deal. I have wondered if there was any possible loop hole which would make it possible for you to deal with the union in at least a limited way.”

“What do you mean ‘limited way’?” he said.

Then I said, “Well, with some limitation on the degree of their representation.”

“Well, I don't see how that would work. I would never agree to anything that makes a man join a union. They don't have to join a union. They can work for me any time they want to and don't have to join a union. I don't think it's fair. I don't think it's American.” He went on and on. “They don't want to belong to a union, none of them want to.”