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see. They would have their pictures taken. Thereafter they would attempt to tell the man to leave the plants and their negotiations would begin. He said to me, “Now, you're sure of all this, aren't you?” I said, “Yes, I'm sure as anybody can be in this uncertain world that that's what is intended and what will happen.” All was well. I went home and went to dinner. My daughter was home. A friend was visiting us. Just the three of us had dinner. I hadn't said anything to the press except that I felt there was a break in the situation and I thought everything would be worked out soon. The telephone rang. The maid, Amanda, came and said, “Miss Perkins, a gentleman wants to speak to you. He says it's very important.” “Did he say who he is?” “He says his name is Mr. Sloan from New York. He's speaking from New York.” So I went to the telephone, It was Alfred Sloan again on the telephone, saying that he had been talking about this and thinking about it. He had learned some things that were very disquieting and he would not do anything of this sort. I said, “What have you learned, Mr. Sloan?”