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making speeches and was always denouncing. He was a member of this committee of which Dies was Chairman, the Un-American Activities Committee. You always heard that he'd said this, or had made a speech somewhere and said that, but he was not a very picturesque or popular person. He didn't get too much invitation to make speeches. So it was somewhat of a surprise to me when he stepped forth and put in this resolution of impeachment. Again, since you ask, I never discovered why he did. How would I discover why he did it? I just think he had a notion.

Parnell Thomas, as we now know, although we didn't know this at that time, is a very peculiar man himself. I did know at that time, or at least I had reason to believe at that time, that he was one of these people who had changed his name and changed his religion on the way up on the world, that he was born Feeney. I forget his first name. That's a good Irish name. He was born in Jersey City of good Irish Roman Catholic parents, but on the way up in the world he changed his name and religion. This was just brought to me as gossip. I think it was Fitzgerald who got it through newspaper sources from his association on the New York World. On the way up he had got himself a good job somewhere and he decided that you couldn't get anywhere in the world being a Roman Catholic.