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but it would have been pure speculation based on some things he had said and some things he hadn't said.

I think I met Claude Wickard for the first time at headquarters. I seem to have known Mrs. Wickard before, but that was because she sort of moved around socially in Democratic circles in Washington. At any rate, I think the convention was the first time I met Wickard to talk to him in any consecutive way. I knew who he was and where he stood. I remember that Wallace had commented at times upon some report of Wickard's or something that Wickard had done.

At any rate, I was impressed by the meagerness and not up-to-dateness of the Wallace headquarters, but that wasn't too bad. As I left I met Sidney Hillman. He was on his way to the headquarters. He, of course, was not a delegate. He was just an onlooker and a well-wisher who had come out, as a lot of other people had, to pay his respects. Of course, by this time he was thinking he was very, very important. He'd begun to think politically, and get that blown-up view of his political astuteness and political wisdom, which later became pretty clear. I remember his being unctious in the hall there, greeting me with that stock question, “How are things going? I think they will be all right. We shall have





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